Only one of our provinces is fully french. Sure, we learn french in elementary school but by high school a lot of people have switched to a different second language. Walk around streets of different cities in Canada and you will hear ENGLISH.
no one cares about your shitty medal count. congrats. you almost won 28 events. too bad coming in 2nd and 3rd is still loosing and americans are the only ones who pay attention to overall medal count rather that number of gold medals...
yeah but had they won the most gold medals and not overall medal count you would not have made that comment. and it doesn't matter that one country recognizes medal count over most golds, the rest of the world and the olympic committee recognizes who won the most golds as the overall winners. so ha.
YES THANK YOU!\nso what canada didn't win as many medals as the u.s?\nWHO CARES!\nwe still beat you at hockey for both men and women.\nyou still lost,\nget over it.\njust because we didn't win by a great deal of points,\nWE STILL KICKED YOUR ASS.\n:)
not anyone good enough you say? where does sydney crosby play professionally? oh thats right, AMERICA. you guys just luck out that the good players only feel good about where they come from once every four years and decide to go back to that frozen tundra of yours for the Olympics. dont think your hot shit. for the next 3 years sid the kid only cares about his american fans.
Or maybe it was the contract he signed with the NHL that caused him to get drafted, I really don't think wanting to be there is a real explanation. Nice try though, ignorant American and maybe if you learned to pick up a fucking book every once in a while, you'd learn that our climate in the southern portion of the country is not just for ice fishing and igloos. P.S that vehicle you drive probably runs on oil from here or whatever recent country you have attacked.
thank you for saying something, i was about too. \nthese people are slightly retarded know-it-alls, who are completely ignorant to how the real world works. you took the words right out of my mouth :)
Actually the US as a country averages higher on IQ tests than Canada, so if we're slightly retarded, you're full on retarded. Also, the US is more educated than Canada, at least according to the CIA world fact book. So suck it.
The CIA, an american agency, says you're more educated. I'd like to direct your attention to a show called "this hour has 22 minutes", a segment called "talking to Americans" where a correspondent talks to Americans, including 2 governors, and exposes their ignorance. "Congratulations Canada on preserving your national igloo" - Mike Huckabee. George W. Bush thought our Prime Minister's name was Jean Poutine. "Canada, Congratulations on your new 24 hour c
countryboy-I was addressing bauer, so my comment had nothing to do with hockey and everything to do with hypocrisy. Gimp-America ranks something like number 57 or 58 and Canada is around sixty or so, If we were going to lie about it, wouldn't have put ourselves in the top fifty at least? And I've seen that show, and its ridiculous if you believe any of that BS. "CONGRATULATIONS Canada, on legalizing the stapler!" heres a little entertainment secret for you....ITS STAGED.
First of all, your point about IQs is debatable: depending on where you check, Canadians are sometimes higher on the list while other times Americans are higher. Secondly, in no place does the CIA world fact book say Americans are more educated. If you check properly you will see that literacy rates are the same and that Canadians tend to stay in school longer. You do spend more money on education though. I guess it's just not enough, it seems you guys can't even do proper research.
Where did Mario Lemieux, a Canadian who owns an American hockey team, discover Sydney Crosbey, the youngest captain to win the stanley cup, and just bagged us a gold against the American? Oh yeah, Canada.
Umm, frozen tundra? If I remember right, the American east coast was in the middle of snowmageddon, while Vancouver had temperatures of 15celsius and sun...
First, it's SIDNEY Crosby, not Sydney. And he does not only care about his american fans. If you pulled your head out of your ass you would know this. And we don't think we're "hot shit". Many of the comments on here suggest that you guys do. Just accept the loss. We don't go on here bashing you guys because you got the gold in half pipe. We accept that Shaun White is awesome, and move on. Grow up.
1. I am proud to be an American.\n2. It was a very good game on both sides, but Canada wanted it more.\n3. I also wanted it verrrrry badly, I really think I could of scored had I been there. Well, probably not.\n4. Canada broke a record for the most gold medals, U.S.A. broke a record for the most total medals, I think we are both pretty talented.
Definitely my favourite comment hun :) The American team did great work but ultimately we Canadians did have something to prove.Especially Crosby!Besides, the American team looked damn professional and took it like real men-why can't everybody else?
here we go, finally some posts that show the true spirit of the game. We lost to the US in the first game, and played a damn good game in the final. It was really close and both teams fought hard. And for both Americans and Canadians - we're not all that different...
Don't be sore loosers. You Americans put up a he'll of a fight, it could have gone either way. Hahah but I think I saw some of ur boys crying after they lost.
Clearly the reason the Canadian comments are like they are is due to the fact that basically all of the population (of age or illegally so) is fucking wasteddd tonight.\n\nStop being such poor sports guys. It was a good game, both teams played great. And this is a moment for the books- seriously doing anything in Canada today but watching that hockey game was like a crime. We just shut down for 3 hours. It was amazing.
first they are backslashes, second they are put in there because the user hit the ENTER button which then puts in \\n which means new line, it isn't their fault the programming for this site is a little off
Hey America, canadians don't give a fuck about your abduance of metals in useless sports that no one gives a shit about. WE won male and female hockey, which as we all know is the most important sport. So you can go shove your metals up your ass, canadas busy breaking records.
I hope your silver medal tarnishes faster than it actually should. You are so ungrateful. At least you got a medal! Think of all the countries that entered the olympics and did not recieve any medals. By being such sore losers you are making your own country look bad.
pretty sure everyone likes Canada around the world.. We have to wear flags on our bags so they don't mistake us and treat us like they would if we were you
You're right, and every morning I wake up pet my beaver, crawl outta the ol' igloo and ice fish for my meal that day... any more stereotypes that weren't covered here?
Really? At least we are graceful. we weren't all over the tv and newspapers bashing the american team like the states were. kesler and johnson were just horrible. they deserved to lose with that kind of attitude. the US goalie was amazing. he deserved the MVP but that was pretty much the only good thing about the US team. canadian team had everything.. great goaltending, great player depth. we worked for it.
seriously...no point in arguing. I know i've bashed, but BOTH teams had to be good to make it to this point right? It was a hell of a game, and to tell you the truth, it could've gone either way.
Oh you silly Americans... hockey wasn't created by Canadians! It's actually credited to the Irish. So "Canada: better than America at a sport neither of them invented" would be more appropriate.
Technically, the inventor of hockey is unknown and could be attributed to several different countries which all had a game involving a curved stick and a ball. However the rules used today were made by a Canadian.
yeah i just left a comment, ive heard from multiple sources that the british invented the first versions of hockey when they were colonizing canada, but what it is today is apparently entirely different
We invented ICE hockey, field hockey has been around for ages. The first official setting of the rules was laid down by a Canadian named J G Creighton. His rules were implemented in the first game of ice hockey played in Montreal, Canada in the year 1875.
I'm super confused why all the Americans keep saying I'm gonna have to wait in line for months at the doctors. If I want to go to the doctor today I can. It's called a walk in clinic. I just wouldn't be able to see my family doctor until next week. Still not that long.
Hahaha no one said it had to be pretty you Yankee fuck, just has to end up in the net!!
Kiss our collective gold winning asses
Technically more gold than anyone EVER before
Yeeaaaahhhh bitches
technically if the rink was at a higher altitude like in salt lake it would take longer for the athletes to get used to the thinner air, so really a rink can very a lot from place to place, just like in salt lake the speed skating was faster because of thinner air; thinner air = less drag.
USA, 3 times the population of Canada and still can't find enough good players beat us. at least we won overall. its OUR game, & you're just jealous ;)
how are they being sore losers? they never said anything bad about canada. they cried because they lost. i'm sure any other team that lost would've cried too.
that's true,can't blame them one bit....they played great,and definitely earned a few tears.........but it's pretty funny reading the rest of you american crybabies go on
Funny how everyone on here is bashing the Canadian team but most of the players play for American teams. I'd love to see your teams play without candian players. They'd fucking blow
it's ok, we have more than enough... in fact I think we have the most gold medals ever won for the winter olympics and the only athlete to win medals in both summer and winter olympics.\n\nbut at least you have Dan and Dave right?
Wow.. U are all immature! Canada won the game fair and square! I don't see how it was barely when to get the US second goal we had to add an extra player! You all need to stop making our county look like a bunch of uneducated morons! I know some Canadian and they r some of the best people I know.. Why can't we all just learn to get along
Fuck off and enjoy the silver ya god damn war mongers. Canada is admired everywhere, the world hates you and we're sick of sending our men and women to die in Afghanistan. Suck dicks and die.
Canada has broken more winter olympic records than the Americans have. PLUS, the only reason you have more overall medals is probably because you had more olympians!
This is so true. I am an American living in Europe right now and no one here gives a FUCK about the Winter Olympics. Half of the people I have spoken to don't even know they are going on. Way to go, Canada. The world is clearly very impressed.
more people and more funding. considering that most of our athletes have to work day jobs AND train as opposed to private half pipes and sports illustrated covers, winning the most golds at the winter olympics is quite the feat :)
It's petty that you continue to mention your overall medal count. For the record, it doesn't justify the gold you didn't win or being second and third to other countries on numerous ocassions
America: arrogant and poor sports. That's the difference between Canadians and Americans; if the US had won the game, us Canadians would be congratulating them on their win instead of bashing them. CANADAAAAA!!
Of course. But are comments such as the one below this post really considered defending yourself, or is just more slander? You can be the judge of that.
You're all fucking ignorant. Grow up. I'm from America, and I hate this fucking place, and I hate the bad reputation I have because of all of you. Yeah, I was bummed we lost, but the truth of the matter is it was a great game with two great teams. It could have gone either way in the end. Who had more medals? Who had more gold medals? Who invented hockey? WHO GIVES A SHIT? Clearly we're all hockey fans. Appreciate the game, and what we got to watch, and kindly shut the fuck up on both
Haha! Love how sore losers Americians are when they loose! Canada is better at hockey then you are. Go get bossy in a country and make yourselves feel better....
haha....yeah thanks for that......maybe that's why canada handled the recession so much better.....you pay our citizens to be there.....then they come back and spend your money in our country......sweet
I am American and I would like to say that the game was great and both teams earned the medals they recieved. I was rooting for USA, naturally, but Canada played a great game. Also, please forgive the rude responses, Texas is the state where George Bush is from, so you can wonder why some Americans, especially the OP, can be "developmentally disabled". I thankfully am not a redneck from that state, and I'll end with Canada is a beautiful country with kind people. Je t'taime!
this is the reason why the entire world hates america can you not just accept that you were beaten you always have to be the greatest holy crap we beat you suck it up the reason you win more medals is the fact that while we are a small country of 34 million the u.s has over 350 million wow congrats...........and we still won just take the fact your not always the best.. im sorry for all the non ignorant and pompous americans who are poorly represented by some of the idiots that commented on this post
Hokey was invented in Canada not Russia dumbass it was invented by the British soilders durring the 1700s when they were bored and needed something to do. If your gonna act like a smart ass get your facts straight
I don't know if it has already been said but The origins of hockey are actually shrouded in mystery, but we do know that a similar type field game has been dated to 2000 BC and it was played in the village of Beni Hasan in ancient Egypt. So buddy is an idiot, I'm a nerd and CANADA STILL KICKED USA's ASS!!!!\nthat is all. lol.
And a Canadian team is the current World Champions in that too. Not to mention a Canadian scored the game winning goal in the last NCAA championship...
actually, lacrosse is the national summer sport and hockey is the national winter sport. i'm an american and i know that. get your facts straight about your own damn country.
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thisisdumb91
on Feb 28, 10 at 11:34pm
national sport and inventing a sport...two completely different things. thanks for coming out and proving once again american people are half retarded.
Although I know it was founded in Canada, what exactly are you trying to so with the "National?" I mean just clarifying, you realize national means in ONE country, right?
canada, we can all disagree on the hockey game, but you guys can't seriously try to defend the closing ceremonies. nickelback and avril lavinge? ...may god help you
Great Big Sea should have preformed to....offset...the other acts. They show true Maritime spirit and love 'em or hate 'em they are to the core Canadians
Last I checked, the USA has 10x more people and WAY more money, which would usually mean better athletic programs (yes, including hockey to save yourself the embarassment next time). YET Canada got the most gold medals ever in a winter games. Thanks healthcare, thanks generous athletic grants, thanks good government. Canada wins... Again...
11:27, don't stoop to the level of the shit Americans.. You do know if Canada was invaded the mutha fuckin US of A would be the first there to help. Congrats on the hockey win as well, it was a damn insane game
People people.. We should really stop bad mouthing these Americans.. Cuz next thing you kno they might be attacking us and starting a war.. Now we wouldn't want that would we?
This is really sad. All if this over a hockey game? Really? I am an American and I am niether fat, stupid, ignorant, nor red neck. I do not support the war, but I support the troops. I also believe that our healthcare should benefit people from all classes. I have been to Canada plenty and I think it is a beautiful place with kind and frinsly people. You need to understand that all the people in Canada and America do not fit the stereotypes that people make. everyone is individual.
I guess you Americans are as ignorant as everyone thinks, Canada didn't invent hockey, it's just part of a lifestyle here, Crosby is 22, and you guys might live longer in health terms, but since evey other country hates you, you have a better chance of being killed in terrorist attacks
Wow that just shows how dumb Texans are. No wonder they cant win hockey. They don’t even understand the history behind the game and that it was invented by the Russians even thought they invented it in Canada.
The game of hockey (the base which today's hockey is built on) was invented by the British when they were in Canada colonizing. They had nothing to do in the winter when their ships were iced in so they made up the game. I learned that in grade 7 history so most of the other Canadians should know that too.
Doesn't the NHL contain players both from the US and Canada..that play together in the same league...at the same level of hockey...I mean...if I normally played on a team with my opponents I would hope that their talent would be somewhat similar to my own..just sayin..
I'm pretty sure half of America has no idea where Canada is or how many provinces we have considering you Americans gave us tons of material for a whole tv series dedicated to how stupid and ignorant Americans are about their neighbours.
honestly, I would have been more impressed with Canada had they foresaken a gold medal in skiing and let the blind skier they SAID they'd let compete, compete, instead of pulling him and destroying his dreams.
Dude. Y'all lost the first game to us and had to beat us in overtime IN YOUR SPORT IN YOUR COUNTRY. You had two weeks in world news now go back to being insignificant, cause when your not your just obnoxious
At the end of the day, our team is the one wearing the gold medals. Doesn't matter how they got there. Besides, don't kid yourself into thinking this is 1980 all over again. The US put a VERY competitive team into this tournament, beating Canada isn't the huge upset everyone seems to think it is.
Last I checked Canada is actually a part of North "America" too... maybe you should learn more about yourself before trying to explain what we are too. It was a good game no matter who was involved. All the best players on the "american" hockey teams are canadian anyways.
Wow. It makes me ever more proud to be Canadian reading these posts. People keep saying 'how can you be proud of third in your own country' well it's because we are so proud to celebrate our countrys accomplishments no matter what they be. If you don't want to celebrate anything but first than be sure to not celebrate any of your silver or bronze. In which case it looks like we bet you.
I don't know about that actually. Most of the good college-age hockey players in Canada play in the WHL or OHL and therefore might not count as amateurs.
fuck you americans everyone in this world hates you. there isnt a single canadian how actually respects you we only use you for shit. we almost beat you in medal counts even thought you have 10x the population that we have you fat asses
No one would have bashed the Americans if you hadn't tried to down play our win! Be proud that you had the most medals and let us be proud that we won hockey and set a new record for most gold
Medals won at a winter olympics.
Fuckin americans, you have around 10x our population, that's the only reason you were close. If you had the same size population as Canada, it would be a blowout. Canadas just better then you at hockey, get over it, you guys wreck in most other sports.
Americans posing as canadians?what the fuck are you smoking? Congrats Canada, nothing against yall, but that statement is bullshit. Americans are some of the most patriotic
Alrite.. Congrats on the gold.. Still feel bad for you cuz after hockey, the best thing canada has is drake... And after that, Justin bieber.. Who is the real loser in this match up??
And I'm pretty sure Canada has never had to help america fight a war...canadas army cosists of old men on horse back. That won't necessarily help them win at anything because men on horse back is not a good match against actual weapons. But if canadas so great I'm sure they cld invade America and fight us hahahaha what a joke. Canadian bitches
Hockey is the most tough sport out there and there isn't many pussies playing it. you can't fucking touch a guy in basketball and baseball you get ejected if you hit the batter. In hockey we encourage fighting, which you'd know if you watched the NHL
Haha! Grow up. It's Olympic Hockey, not some High School shit at the rink.\nYou guys played a great game and you almost had us. Easily one of the best games I have watched in a long time.
Don't worry America- the whole world knows you're still the best at being a bunch of pricks. I haven't laughed so hard since 9-11!
The whole world was cheering for Canada. Well done.
We won the winter olympics, you guys won a hockey game. However, us Americans welcome back your stars with arms wide open. I'm sure Pittsburgh will be especially happy to have your hero Sidney back.
You "won the olympics?!" There is no overall winner of the olympics, idiot. We broke records in most medals too. Stick to discussing hockey because clearly you don't understand anything else.
you gotta think before you say something dumb like that. we're wearing gold man, so no matter what the score of the last game was, you guys couldnt handle the head. that team was just too much of a powerhouse for you guys to contain
It was a good game, i wont fight that. Wont bash Canada for less Medals, or US for less Gold Medals. My teams Captain got a gold, so I'm happy there. (Mike Richards). But in all fairness, Crosby was given way too much credit. He did jack in the Olympics, got a flutter goal, and instantly it was bc he's the best player in the world? Thats all that bothers me. Great job Canada, but Crosby...dude, there are better players. You proved that in the Olympics.
Why not? If your country is so great at everything, then why do you suck at soccer, get beat in baseball, and then steal immigrants from other countries? I never said Canada was good at soccer, I just said America sucks.
Yeah, you have nukes. Congratulations. So does Russia, India, Pakistan and China to name a few. Want to bet what happens if you guys tried and used them?
Dude all you talk about is Nukes. 80% of the Canadian population lives in the south. If you used a nuke on us, you'd be blowing yourself up and you'd be destroying your economy. Go on a fucking shooting rampage you psycho fuck.
Just to let the Americans know, basically EVERYONE in the world hates you. So just go fuck yourselves you bunch of pieces of shit. I hope mere Americans die on terrorist attacks, the world would be a better place to live.
but none the less, we're STILL BETTER, so enjoy your silver medal, and we'll see you in 4 years..... we'll enjoy or Gold and our World Record, thank you and good day sir.
ya i'm pretty sure anyone would react the same if someone was insulting their country.... but it's ok.... we know your upset now that the whole world knows we're better than you.
*Correction , the world knows you are better than us in hockey but if we had to fight in a war, Canada would become American soil within days. you stupid dumb bitch, know who your superiors are.
Biggest ignorant jealous dufus ever lol.\nIf we were ever at war, the whole world would be on our side so uh, you better start liking french fries with gravy and cheese yank ;)
pretty sure we have quite a few more allies than you.... at least most of the world would probably be smart enough to not take the side of the country that has pretty much NOTHING.
why? Because you all have guns and are legally able to shoot your neighbors if they are on your property? Congrats on having poor laws and believing killing is the answer to everything. That really is superior...
Why is it always wars that count with you guys? I'm more proud of the fact that we beat you in hockey personally, because I don't have to pay a fortune for my education because our government isn't pouring all it's money into our armies. Sorry if that seems at all odd to you, but I'd rather be educated than fighting a war..
this is HILARIOUS,lets go back to the war of 1812 when you americans tried coming into canada to take it over but oh wait here i am in canada, i wonder who won that war. but we must also face something we help each other. when america invades a country that it has no place being in its us canadians who are there helping the ppl u fucked over,but canadians we must realize that if it was not for our gun happy neighbours our asses would have been taken over by now. one day our countries will be one.
It was a great game either way but....I'm not quite sure what you learn in history at school but we won the war of 1812 against you, and your army prepared for that war, we just reacted to Madison's sad attempt at Manifest Destiny. Take some actual history classes.
yet, if the Americans won, you would have had a lot to do with it right? That's what you guys do, take credit for the good and blame the bad on other countries? Seems about right. Not all Canadians are nice, I'm obviously proving that. It's too bad really, typically I am a nice person but your country's ego just brings out the hate. Congrats on making subtle comments that you would never consider had you won. Enjoy taking the credit for a meaningless comment.
Never laugh at the Americans for their healthcare. I love being Canadian but that's a low fucking blow. Do you know how sick people can get and how agonizing it is to not be able to afford it? I'm not too sure how the system works step by step in the states but I have heard horror stories. NEVER make fun of the Americans for that. It's pathetic and looks bad on us.
Everyone: SHUT THE FUCK UP. The game is over, the Canadians won (just barely) and the Americans played with valiant effort. There's no need to drag out the gametime competition by constantly insulting each other. Get over yourselves, geez.
Too bad all of Canada is fucking tundra/snow.. Look at the U.S.. Y'all should beat us in the WINTER olympics. Give Sasquatch a holler for me, eh Canada?
have you ever even been to Canada? in case this comes as a surprise to you we have running water and electricity up here and recently we've discovered heaters for our igloos. before you start talking about the land try actually seeing it asshole, we have summer months too and the land is close to the land of your upper states
If it wasnt for Canada where would you get clean water for your pathetic pussy beer?\nI'd send you some Canadian beer but I would be afraid of you puking it up because its too strong. Go drink some coors light or something you dick head
we get our water from here in america dumb fuck. seriously? u guys make labatt. thats goat piss.\nbeer thats too strong? do u even know what the fuck you're talking about?
America: better than any other country at being narcissistic and arrogant. You really take the cake, and if it were a sport, believe me, you would be winning gold. Until then you can stop crying about your loss in the gold medal match and count and worry about creating another war based upon your redneck lack of morals. Go die in your hospitals, trying to make a payment for your corrupt health care system and while you're doing so, we'll be living in our stereotypical igloo houses enjoying our gold
Oh Canada, you stupid Americans think your all that, but good try sweetheart, I still have my health, money, and 14 gold medals. Good try america, but you just have to settle for being the best at coming up just a bit short, where as we canadians kicked ass and are the best at winning ;)
Americans: over rated fatasses who spend too much money, are obsessed with shallow celebrities, bully the rest of the world and elected George bush not once, but twice. Say what you will, but America is the epitome of self righteous arrogant stupidity. At least we won with some class. Get over yourselves
For the retard down there who call Americans a bunch of fat asses.... Not all of American people are huge pieces of shit thank you very much!!! I work hard to stay fit... And congrats on the win... Easy on the fat comments tho because I probably look better then you your girlfriend or your wife... Have a good day.
Reading these comments is like experiencing high school all over again. All teams did well, Canada came out shining, and damn am I proud of that. In the end, stop being 12, and just be happy you all got to see the 2010 Olympics.
prolly bc nobody in america really cares about hockey u fagg. your whole country plays hockey. baseball, basketball, and football all come before hockey. and thats just the men. f'ing mounties
I've lived many years in both countries enough to infer that in Canada you will never get the same warmth and compassion from people as you would in the states. People in the states can talk to complete strangers like they were good friends, while in Canada, such a horrid act would be deemed as a shock, and socially unacceptable. For that simple reason that seems to be taken for granted by most, I cannot help but always seem like an outsider in Canada. Based on that, USA > Canada by MILES!
What part of Canada did you live in, exactly? I can't believe you just said that in Canada, strangers conversing is a "horrid act [that] would be deemed as a shock and socially unacceptable". Are you kidding me? Maybe you felt like an outsider because you were insulting the hospitality and politeness that makes Canada a nation revered by the world. Also, a unit of distance is a great measure of a nation's worth.
Maybe they just had a problem with you? I have lots of American friends who have said that Canadians are very friendly, hospitable, and warm in dealing with others, especially visitors to our country. I don't know where you lived in Canada, but I am pretty sure that you are making that up...
"Durex also revealed that Americans are having a lot less sex than just about everyone else in the world, and when we do, less than half are fully satisfied. Great job, U.S." Canadian men have on average 23 sexual partners in their life while Americans have 13. Btw only 1 province is French, and the rest of Canada doesn't even like Quebec.
Does it? Do you live here? It takes me about 10 minutes to an hour to see any doctor...wierd. But you must know right? Seeing as how you have so much evidence to back up your pathetically false statement...
Yes, Canada won. It was a good game. But does no Canadian realize that their hero, Sidney Crosby, plays in AMERICA on an AMERICAN team, and is payed by AMERICANS? Just saying. This doesn't really have any relevance, but if the U.S. and Canada combined into one giant country, we'd be pretty beastly. Anyone interested in the Canadian United States of America?
it's honestly hilarious what people are saying on here. 1.. Canada won, please people get over it.. IT'S JUST A GAME ! 2... Canadian healthcare is free, no we don't have to wait a month to go see our doctors. 3.. what did #2 have anything to do with the text ? honestly almost all the people commenting on this are making their country look terrible. the states is a wonderful place. i bet a lot of Canadians vacation there and vice versa for Canada.. like really people.. BOTH countries stop being
I don't know about you but I can go to my dr tomorrow if I wanted to, and guess what! I don't have to pay for it ! Plus, America is fat, you don't see tv shows about canadians being fat !
I love how this area code's from Texas. They probably think we all live in igloos and drive our dogsleds to work.\nLet me tell you classless, trashy Americans what Canadians think of you:\nFat, stupid, ignorant, insipid, arrogant, excessively patriotic, obnoxious, overly indulgent, enamored with yourselves, nastiest acents, and LOVE slang terms. And the sad part is that you're proud.\nAnd the only people in Canada who say 'eh' are newfies, or people who live in Port Moody.
This is a pointless argument.half of what you people are useing for your athents are wrong. Can't we just accept the fact that canada's reign as the king of hockey will be over soon.
I am Canadian and proud of it, there is nothing wrong with the us. There us a few bad people.
Clearly Canada has a population of 36 million and the States has one of 307 million and yet we still won.\nClearly tdc3ju should understand that people aren't grammatically correct all of the time on the internet. Maybe y'all should stick to bull riding.\nOh and incase you where wondering the y'all was a poke at your accent champ ;)
Canada is that annoying little itch right on the worlds lower back that we just cant scratch. Fuck you canadians, socialized healthcare has already made your country a pile of shit. Abd now your gonna brag about beating us s in fucking hockey?? Screw you talk to me when you have a medal count in the 30s. FUCK CANADA!!!!!
Wow, I'm so glad I live in Canada so I don't have to deal with dicks like you. :) Oh ps, your welcome for all of the support we gave you during 9/11, guess thats what a pile of shit does for their neighbours.
How about our men dying in the Middle East in a pointless war started by a man who almost died chocking on a pretzel? No thank you but calling us a pile of shit.
If your intelligent ass knew shit, you'd know the truth to why the hell this was started. The most retarded human being to ever run a country aka G.W Bush was mad that Hussein insulted his daddy. That's not a reason to start a war. But how much of a better place is the world? Wasn't this war supposed to end years ago? And wait it's been almost 10 years and still nothing! Wow. Go America!
After having calmed down a little bit, I wanted to retract anything insulting I may have said about Canada. It was a good game, and I went crazy when we tied it up there at the very end of regulation. That feeling was worth anything negative any native Canadian may have to say about America.\n\nNext up, World Cup 2010. See you there Cana....oh, wait. Well see you again in 4 years at the next winter olympics!
Lol yeah cuz the US is really going to make it out of the group stage and into the Round of 16. Not to sound like an asshole, but we all know there's no chance of that.
That was uncalled for...the athletes were actually excited about the luge track because there was a chance of breaking world records on it because of its speed. Did you even see it? Or are you one of those people who make judgments on things they know nothing about?
good luck stopping us again if that ever happened. since we make all of your weapons and we save the good stuff for ourselves, i wouldn't give you much of a shot. no pun intended.
I'm not sure having REASON to have a great military is commendable. Congratulations, your country is a huge asshole that other countries hate enough to try to destroy?
Yeah, we're such assholes. How dare we stand up to save the jews, and the british, and the Haitians, and the Chinese, and the South Koreans, and the French, and the Italians... I love how if America doesn't do shit other countries hate on us for not helping but as soon as we step up, despite being in debt, they all complain about our policies. Awesome double standard there.
The holocaust, and the genocide of the Jews was based on the belief that the Aryan race was superior. Eugenicists in California started that idea. You guys pretty much ignited the holocaust.
Well we did burn down your White House in 1812, and repelled every single American attack on Canada that has ever happened.\n\nLearn a little history before you make yourself look like a pussy.
Canada doesn't have nuclear weapons. have fun with your bayonets and pitch forks. oh yea and where do you get your fighter jets and weapons? oh yeah, america. dont pretend you would have a chance.
See, this is the difference. We're proud we're a peaceful nation that the international community still loves and respects, whereas you Americans take pride in death and destruction. And if America ever did try and invade Canada, I'm sure we'd have the overwhelming majority of support from the international spectrum.
Americans are going to be narrow minded about other countries because ever since first grade they've been taught it's the best. I'm Canadian but I can see both sides of the argument.
You are so dumb. I am american but if you know anything about hockey which i can tell you dont you would be able to look down both those rosters and see the better team. I was cheering for the usa but the better team won.
You're going to bring up soccer? Canada is constantly getting their ass whipped in that sport, even by USA. They couldn't keep up if they let them wear rollerskates.
it's hilarious at how shitty the Americans are at loads of things (especially given the MASSIVE amount of gold medals we have), but especially LOSING. suck itttttt
Maybe if your fucking judges were HONEST we'd have more medals when your team AND our team touches someone but only WE get disqualified. *cough apollo ohno cough* It's easy to win when you cheat.
We win, we cheat.\nYou win, you're the greatest country etc etc.\nIf I could rid the world of one person it would be you solely because the world would be such a better place if you died.
agreed. Communism sucks. And health insurance pays for most of our shit, it's not that expensive compared to the far superior quality. Sooooo many people come to the US when they have health problems just because they KNOW our doctors are better. And it's retarded how statsmatic turned a comment about hockey into a rant about how much America sucks in general. We're ALLIES... "dickhead."
funny.. i also enjoy seeing the doctor when i'm sick, so i go. and if you call waiting 15 minutes in the waiting room a line, well you're an impatient ignorant fuck. wake up and smell the health benefits america, canada is the shit. plain and simple.
That's what's wrong with Americans, constanly trying to prove something, you think because you have a bigger military your a better country, you also have more poverty and more crime than Canada, proud to say I'm Canadian
Oh please 10:27. I hope you're kidding. I har never eating more than an hour to get in a see a doctor. I'm not going to generalize and say that all Americans are idiots, but your views and socialized medicine are way out of wack. I love the health care system, and I love that our country looks aver the rich AND the poor, and bot just those that can added it. Canada goldfoe hockey, woooo!
Rugby is the toughest sport mitchell. Look it up sometime. And yes, hockey is full of pussies! Look at all those fucking pads! I wouldn't feel a punch through those fuckers if I was fighting Rampage Jackson!
Yeah Canada. Whoopdie fucking doo you have 14 gold. We have ELEVEN on you. Wahhhh. The only sore losers I see hear are Canadian. Americans.. It's ok. Our player scored their winning goal. Canada suck it. And no they don't have an army.
poor america didnt set all the olympic records this time awwwwwww. go fuck yourself they only reason america always owns in sports is because you guys have money. sidney crosby is canadian you dumbfuck hopefully obama straightens you out like canada did yesterday
Where have you been? Foreign countries don't like Obama anymore. By now you should have realized he isn't going to do anything (not that I think he should).
Just saying...a Canadian invented basketball too and y'all suck at that. Good luck ever beating us in ANY team sport other than hockey.
Oh and Nash lighting the torch? You couldn't fins 4 popular winter athletes?
Really got no problem with Canada having the most gold, props to them. My thing is Crosby is a crybaby who always wants his way and thinks he's the best...newsflash he's not!
Why are you so obsessed with wars?? I am talking about when people trash talk the states. I always stand up for Americans and try to tell people that not everyone in the states are ignorant and rude. After seeing these comments, I am not so sure about that.
Not...really. \n\nIf you hadn't realized, Canada is the States number 1 import and export partner. You'd be pretty much screwed without us, sweetheart.
How do you figure that? The only thing we get from you is the rep of being associated with you, which, just in case you were wondering, makes us more likely to take the rap for shit that you morons have done to anger other countries.
To those people calling Americans arrogant and ignorant, what's your point? Do we give a damn? Not a chance. America controls the world in any way you wish to look at it
the US doesn't control the world. You THINK you control the world through fear, intimidation and outright disregard for other human beings world wide. That's like 90% of the problem. The USA is basically just a school yard bully. So, looking at it THAT way, you're wrong.
Canadians. Yes they have an army but would probably lose to long island in a battle. And cough cough 110 USA medals in Beijing. How many did you have Canada? And yes canada crosby plays for the states. I tried to research any major contributions Canada has provided the world... Nada. Sorry :( I think the world felt bad
ahaha WOW\njust think, every American living with Diabetes right now could be dead without the Canadian invention of insulin. Or all you Americans with Blackberry's or even telephones...yep that's thanks to Canada! When mens hearts fail and women's tits sag from eating too much McDonalds you have the Canadians to thank for the pacemaker and Wonderbra. We also invented the lightbulb. Oh and your superior military better be thanking Canadians for the walkie-talkie and the g-suit. Ignorant
I'm so glad this text is up cuz my friend bet me I couldn't find proof of the biggest f@g in the world and just and hour after that, here's this post. I win
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ice_hockey#History\nCanada didn't invent hockey, it's been played for a VERY long time. Canada just so happens to have ALOT of talent geared towards hockey because of how it's young are raised. The same happens in the U.S. only with baseball, football, basketball AND hockey, so all the talent is diluted through 4 sports instead of just the 1.
All of the fucking idiots talking shit about America and saying how good Canada is need to shut the fuck up. Canada is good for nothing. Canada has never done anything important in the history of the universe. Congrats on winning a hockey game. Now go do something that matters
Important? The NFL is an all American league you retard. You refuse to let any other country participate for fear of failure. Talk to us Canadians once you're country decides to compete in a sport that any one can. Oh right, like your soccer team. That continually gets whipped.
Exactly. All the damn Canadian's actin like hot shit sayin they kicked our ass are either retarded or watchin the wrong damn game. We scored with 24 seconds left? Talk about clutch.
Canadian's acting like hot shit? We're humble unless provoked by American fucks like you. And why shouldn't we act like hot shit? We just beat a rival who trash talks our country every single day. We're more dignified than you people; just think what it would be like had America won, a fucking shit-fest of insults aimed at Canadians.
America trash talks Canada every single day? I'm pretty sure besides this Olympics due to UNFAIR JUDGING and everyone generally being competitive in sports, America doesn't trash talk you. beside the harmless "eh moose and hockey" jokes, we don't really care one way or the other about you. and don't pretend the ENTIRE WORLD doesn't trash talk Americans. Honestly we get more shit than you do. And I wasn't insulting Canadians until I got on here and saw how obnoxious you wer
You again. I can't stress how retarded you are. It would take someone like you to accuse of unfair judging. Anyways the point is that you guys deserve the shit you get for intruding in everyone else's business.
No one cares about Canada! Olympics r over Canada is irrevelant again and stfu canadians..o we won 14 medals..u didn't win them some athletes did u won't ever touch the medal so it's useless to u..fucking French frogs
its funny how americans bitch an complain how canada sucks and cant play hockey and all that shit yet we won we have the gold medals we owned the podium yu dont kno shit about canada so just get over it complaining and whinning like lil girls isnt gunna bring yu the win so suck it up
Nice. No mention that the us has 10 times the population of Canada. Although you probably didn't know that you ignorant shithead. Oh, and you still lost haha.
Calm down fags, it's just a game. And America an Canada have the worlds largest trading partnership so stop bragging about how the world would be better without Can/USA
Live and work in the USA? U piece of shit I work here to make oil for ur useless habits. The USA could never be what Canada is nor be as patriotic and proud to be canadians. You go to any other country Americans pose as canadians and europeans.... Never the other way around. Fucking douche bags
Hey Canada, just wait a couple years for us to rock your shit during the Summer Olympics, and we'll see how cocky you are when you can barely win a bronze.
That would be a good insult if anyone in Canada gave a shit about the summer Olympics...we're a winter country, these are the games that truly matter.\nGo ahead and win at baseball or track and field, hockey is what matters to us.
I just dint get why everyone keeps binging up healthcare. I'm a dual citizen and the health care in Canada is terrible and my whole family and I come to the us for any health related problem. And yes the us has more money- it's because we contibute to the world. And let me repeat. Crosby is an American athlete all you Canada fucks.
If anything we beat Canada worse the first time than y'all beat us the second time. So.... America is better. And were the powerhouse in all olympic games so suck a nut bitches.
I can't hear you over the sounds of all my gold medals clanging in my ears. If it makes you feel better you can still mooch our fresh water and oil to sustain your backwards imperial measurement system and non-universal health care. Don't forget to get pinched for downloading music and going to assrape jail for smoking marijuana. Of course you can always have one of your republicans steal an election like they did last time. Anyway I'll go back to knowing how awesome Canada is.. Enjoy b
After having followed this comment thread basically all day, I deeply regret even submitting this text to TFLN. I just thought it was funny, and I never even intended for everyone to go all ape-shit and start hating on one another. Damn guys (and girls), this website is just supposed to be funny. Canada won, so what we still got silver. Canada is better than the US at hockey, obviously bc they won gold. Both sides should show a little class and stop throwing punches. I'm stopping right now.
I would "stfu" and Canada might win more medals in summer olympics if we weren't just so darn busy learning where the countries that compete in the olympics are located on a map... I'll take a hockey gold and a significantly higher literacy rate than the US anyday over being a blowhard yank.
You all look like idiots. "oh my country is better, OH MY FUCKING COUNTRY IS BETTER". Seriously? It doesn't fucking matter. It's just sports, one of the most insignificant things on the planet. Black people cab run faster than white people who have better balance. So what? Get your fingers out of your assholes and argue about something worth arguing about. You idiots are what's wrong with the world.
And for the record! Since your country consists of a bunch of dumbasses, it is not all snow and ice in Canada. I live in Ontario, and the weather is like that of New York, meaning yes it is sunny and hot in the summer. ALSO as I type this i lie in a king size bed in a large 2 story home watching the closing cermony on my plasma tv. I hope from that last sentence you'll gather that canadians do not live in igloos
that's a pretty broad statement....do you even know any Canadians?? I wouldn't generalize all Americans as assholes....I think there are a bunch of crybabies on here,but I'm sure there are quite a few cool people in both countries
this describes how i feel about that game that just happened...On canadian soil..check this picture out:\nhttp://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/m/mcdonalds_fail-12853.jpg
Both countries did well at the Olympics, we both broke records. We both deserve to feel good about that without reverting back to the "USA could blow up Canada in like 5 seconds" and "Americans are arrogant pricks". What are you, 11?
Why the fuck is everyone acting like all of a sudden they care about hockey or the olympics for that matter?? Who the hell cares we have march madness coming up.
Agreed, since when do we even like hockey that much? Our NHL's arenas are rarely even packed. We should really settle this with some soccer. A truly neutral sport.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the whole Canadian team is already back, chillin in America? I mean c'mon, even THEY know who the better country is here!,
Fuck all you americans who think your the best first Canada won the most golds and second we still got third in the medal count and third there's a fuck load more Americans then there all canadains so maybe that means america just sucks just saying
Wow, brutal argument. I'm Canadian and so proud of our win but if I was American I'd still be proud. Miller was by far the best in the whole tourney, and they still won more medals overall than us. Plus I have no idea what healthcare has to do with anything. Almost all our players play there and probably get their healthcare there.. Anyways yay for Canada but
Good showing Americans.
I'm American, and I know damn well we'd be bragging as much -- if not more -- if we won (Jr champs anyone? :p). This isn't about healthcare or wars or whatever the hell kind of crap people are trying to turn it into. This is about a hockey game, and who won it. And making fun of Texans for not knowing who invented the sport.
I love how the Americans are all saying at least you won more medals overall than us. Sorry but I'd rather have a bunch of gold than a bunch of bronze!
I'm seeing a lot of retarded comments from both sides. Canada and the US share the best relations of any two separate countries in the world. We have more in common than not.
Did anyone happen to notice that the first goal made by the states should not have even counted as they were off side prior to the goal? Good game though both teams played well.
Canada: your all stupid for reacting to something like this. Canada almost lost so shut up. It was a close game and a lucky goal. If half of you that are bragging about this watched it you would see that it was the kind if shot thAt gets through a goalies pads like .001% of the time and also if we are so illiterate, why are hundreds of the best schools in the world here? Also, as someone who Suffers everyday with 3 chronic illnesses, national healthcare will be the end of me so watch what you say becau
Who cares about any of the "sports" Canada won gold in? The winter olympics were created for countries that live around ice and sucked at the summer olympics. So in a way it's like the special olympics for Canadians.
We can claim to be better because the game that we won happened to be the one where they hand out the medals afterward. You can win as many round robin games as you damn well please, at the end of the day, we scored when it mattered.
I like how both countries have pricks that make their countries look like a holes. Grow up !Canada would be nothing without US and US would be nothing without Canada. Many Canadian stars are big in the us and a lot of American stars are big in Canada hard to make an agument. So if you agree have a drunk with me. Good job Canada... I hate you Crosby. And good job America
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on Feb 28, 10 at 11:24pm
ALSO, people.. the US and Canada rely on each other, if it weren't for things that people invented from either country we'd be completely screwed. so why don't you people find something better to do than argue over something that had NOTHING to do with them and do something useful. btw i AM canadian, proud to be.. but some of the Canadians on here make me ashamed to say that I am one.. because you're making the entire country look bad.
Lol Canadian know we won't do well in 2012 because we aren't a summer country. Summer sports aren't that important in our culture so why bother trying to well at them?
Re: why many canadians go to the states for hockey - most Canadian universities (especially the good ones) do not have athletic scholarships. We keep the smart athletes who have the grades to get scholarships but, unfortunately, you DO get our meatheads.
Re: Canadian healthcare sucking - I have 2 chronic illnesses yet I have received world class healthcare... Go fuck yourself of you believe anti-Canadian-healthcare propaganda
Wow 4:24. You are fucking retarded. Canada is the absolute opposite of awesome. Canada is a fucking arctic wasteland with nothing to do in it but play winter sports. Canada can't do shit else but play in the snow
Actually, mjuivcka, the IOC doesn't have a set mandate on that. Each host nation chooses the means of "winning" whether it be most golds or most total. We chose most total, that's why the rankings have us 3rd. In 2008, China won the games because they won the most gold despite not having the most total because they chose most Golds. Oh and I'm Canadian, not American, just trying to make sure you don't run your mouth about it without knowing the facts. Either way, we won, great
awwww bitter americans. Who cares if you won more overall medals. Gold is the best and we owned your asses in hockey for both mens and womens in Vancouver AND Salt Lake. Salt Lake's on your "turf" so suck it.
Do any of you know what second place is? The number one loser!
The big question is how can Canada get 14 gold medals when USA only get 9. Seriosly they have ten times the peole to choose from, why is the US not the gold medal leader?
Personally theres jack shit in Canada. They've contributed NOTHING towards anyones well being and if you count hockey as something they invented for people to be better off in the world...hahahahaha that defffff proves how dumb Canadians are...GO SHOOT A MOOSE!!!!
nothing EH? how bout the telephone. invented by a Canadian. or penicillin, keeping diabetics alive. created by a Canadian. as for the game, Americans put up a really good game. i wasn't gonna be surprised if they won it all. i give them props. I am Canadian but im gonna bet you that if Canada lost then our entire country would probably be way more pissed off then the Americans are right now. and who cares about the medals. both are record achievements, both deserve a lot of credit
We may have lost but we don't give a shit. Hockey's a bullshit game. Stop fuckin eachother in the asses for five seconds and you damn Mounties may just see that.
Mounties, eh ? Now, is that all the stereotyping you'd like to do ? Or would you like to say that we live in igloos, we have beavers and moose as pets. That Canada is frozen tundra ? Common.. seriously, think of something new.. That shit is getting old.
Americans are beaten by the Japanese in baseball, the Canadians in hockey, the only real sports that America has are football and basketball, simply because they created their own private leagues for them. I live when they say they are world champs in something competing against a league consisting of their own country. Idiots.
Canada is doing better economically then the states, Canada has a infantry battalions trained to the level of us marine, and those are our regular soldiers, plus we just beat both your hockey teams and most of your other Olympic teams. So can we please stop this pointless debate?
yeah... hockey in america isn't important. so get back to us if you ever beat us in like basketball, or football, or a sport that is actually important haha
@10:16: hahaha you guys enjoy your free healthcare, but have fun with the shiity quality and long waits. Explain to me why the Canadian friends I know, have Heath insurance plans in The US? Because they know we have the 10x better health insurance.
Explain to me why people in your country who can't afford health care die? Your systems fucked. I'd rather wait a few hours to see a doctor than watch my someone die because of a sucky ass economy.
Gonna be honest, the idea of socializing anything, including medicine, scares me a bit. Maybe Canada's cool with doing that, but I dunno if the USA would do well with it. Frankly, if they socialize medicine in the US, I'm finding a private health care provider.
Being 2nd and 3rd best at many events must feel really good, but I think being 1st at more events (Canada also set a record; for most GOLD) is the more desirable podium standing. America: ten times the population of Canada, only 64% the amount of gold medals.
Canada is a really shitty country. Sure, they're awesome at hockey, but no one really gives 2 shits about hockey. They're country is lame, and they're half French, so their pussies too. Canada is just a melting pot of every piece of crap in this world.
ha..hahaha...considering all we do in hockey is HIT, and that's why we win because we're NOT pussies and we actually man up and HIT in a CONTACT sport...fucking tool. I guarentee if you met ANY canadian on the street, he would drive you into the fucking pavement.
Yeah that's why the CFL is so much more legit than the NFL!...wait...I mean that's why the CHL is more important than the NHL!...hang on, that's not right either. Fuck it.
Okay first of all, if your insult is going to be effective proper English would be appreciated. "They're country is lame" should actually be written "Their country is lame". Which I mean just kind of makes you look 'lame'. Second of all we're not half French, we have one province that is French, but we are a bilingual nation which really I'm not sure why you're insulting that because doesn't being a bilingual nation just prove our intelligence even more? So s
man, i dont understand why all you americans chirp? your national sport is baseball? :S like really? you dont even have to be in good shape to play that sport?
"They're country is lame, and they're half French, so their pussies too."\n\nYou did a prime job at proving your ignorance here. You're so accurate in saying all french people are pussies, just like the girls I met from the states who asked me if aboriginal people were extinct. No, you just killed them off, because your white supremacy is the best? Enjoy all the rednecks! P.S- it's "their" county... if you want to get technical and caught up in grammar errors.
Canada is totally shitty country, what with it's encouragement of culture, education, understanding, and community. We must be lame, that's why we have some of the hottest tourist destinations in North America, and the world for that matter. You're also living proof of the failure that is the American education system, as there is one province that functions in French, along with other languages, out of 10 provinces and 3 territories. I really like your conclusion, what with the obnoxious racis
Oh! And we're totally pussies, that's why we're following around the disaster that is Americas military, cleaning up the shit they leave behind when they're done showing the world how small their dicks are. I'm so sorry that one person can be so ignorant. Oh, and by the way, to the rest of you proud Americans... you would have fucking died by our hands if it wasn't for Miller. He was the only thing your team had going for them. See you in four years, I'm sure you'll be cryin
Truth be told, most Americans don't care that much about the winter games, partly because were not covered in ice year round. Wait until the summer olympics come around. US always owns in the Olympics that matter, while Canada gets like 8 medals total
I love how an American started this yet you're calling us rude. Kind of reflects on americans in general eh? They start shit then claim innocence if the recipriant doesnt just roll over and take it.
i concur one million percent my friend(and i know that's not possible by any math standards, so if you're going to comment on my use of bad math, please piss off).
I'd say Canadians take the gold in rudeness too. There's a difference between talking trash and referencing the "deafening silence of no one bombing us". Yeah. Classy...
Canadians are like panda bears, when left alone to do our thing we're nice and friendly, but when provoked (say, by some trash-talking Americans) we turn patriotic and fuck shit up.\nYou can't judge Canada on a rivalry between two neighbouring nations, it would happen anywhere.
..... that SHIT. your FREE health care is killing elderly citizens at an exponential rate. I'd be thrilled to have to wait 8 months for a hip replacement. I admit the US health care system is crap right now, but at least when we change it, we will at least do it right. we won't all be filed into the same damn system.
Please don't base your opinion on Canadians, or any nationality for that matter, on a few comments on a web site. I know that there are rude people in your country too.
I completely agree with randomname. It was a close game, and I haven't been talking trash. we beat you the first time, and everyone i know, including myself, focused on being proud of AMERICA for it, not bashing canada. Be proud of your country, but there's no need to act like Americans suck ass, because IT WAS A CLOSE GAME. And we BOTH got records in most medals. Seriously STFU about how much more awesome canada is. If they were, they'd have their own f***ing hockey league. :P
It's all good, Canadians aren't too fond of ignorant morons, so please don't come.\n\nNHL Wiki - "The league was organized in 1917 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada".\n\nOh and there's also something called the Canadian Hockey League as well. Don't worry guys, just wait another 4 years and try again then lol.
Sorry I didn't do extensive research before commenting. What I meant was several of the players on you team, aka Crosby, play in America most of the time, aka for Pittsburg.
Really turning you off a country you probably didn't give a shit or know a thing about in the first place. That's fine anyways, a lot of us have been avoiding you for years anyhow...one less ignorant person to deal with
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